Brand | Logitech |
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Series | ERGO K860 |
Item model number | 920-009166 |
Hardware Platform | PC |
Operating System | Mac,Windows |
Item Weight | 2.56 pounds |
Product Dimensions | 9.17 x 17.95 x 1.89 inches |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 9.17 x 17.95 x 1.89 inches |
Color | Black |
Power Source | Battery Powered |
Batteries | 2 AAA batteries required. (included) |
Manufacturer | Logitech |
ASIN | B07ZWK2TQT |
Country of Origin | China |
Date First Available | January 15, 2020 |
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Logitech ERGO K860 Wireless Ergonomic Qwerty Keyboard - Split Keyboard, Wrist Rest, Natural Typing, Stain-Resistant Fabric, Bluetooth and USB Connectivity, Compatible with Windows/Mac,Black
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Brand | Logitech |
Compatible Devices | Compatible on Windows, macOS, Linux and Chrome OS |
Connectivity Technology | Bluetooth |
Keyboard Description | Qwerty |
Recommended Uses For Product | Everyday Use |
Special Feature | Ergonomic, Wrist Rest, Stain Resistant, Customizable Display Keys |
Color | Black |
Number of Keys | 105 |
Keyboard backlighting color support | Single Color |
Style | Keyboard Only |
About this item
- Wireless range:10 m (33-ft) wireless range
- Improved Typing Posture: Type more naturally with a curved, split keyframe and reduce muscle strain on your wrists and forearms thanks to the sloping keyboard design
- Pillowed Wrist Rest: Curved wrist rest with memory foam layer offers typing comfort with 54 per cent more wrist support; 25 per cent less wrist bending compared to standard keyboard without palm rest
- Perfect Stroke Keys: Scooped keys match the shape of your fingertips so you can type with confidence on a wireless keyboard crafted for comfort, precision and fluidity
- Adjustable Palm Lift: Whether seated or standing, keep your wrists in total comfort and a natural typing posture with ergonomically-designed tilt legs of 0, -4 and -7 degrees
- Ergonomist Approved: The ERGO K860 wireless ergonomic keyboard is certified by United States Ergonomics to improve posture and lower muscle strain
- Familiar Features: Conveniently connect with the USB receiver or Bluetooth, customise Fn key use, and enjoy the quiet keys, full-size layout and CAPS LOCK indicator
- Sustainability: Plastic parts in ERGO K860 Graphite include 71% certified post consumer recycled plastic; uses FSC-certified paper for responsible packaging.
- Powered by Logitech Options: Customise Fn Keys, create custom shortcuts and get battery-life notifications via Logitech Options computer software
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From the manufacturer
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Natural Typing
Type more naturally with a full-size curved, split keyframe that improves typing posture.
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Better Posture, More Comfort
The sloping form reduces muscle strain on your wrists and forearms, keeping your hands, neck and shoulders relaxed.
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Ultra-Precise Typing with Perfect Stroke Keys
Confidently type on keys crafted for precision and fluidity. Fingers glide effortlessly across the matte surface of the keys. And scooped keys make it easy to orient your fingers and stay focused.
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54% More Wrist Support
The pillowed wrist rest places your arms just above the keyboard, offering 54%* more wrist support while preventing strain and reducing wrist bending by 25%*.
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3 Layers Of Comfort
The ERGO K860 comes with three separate layers: 1. Fabric with stain-resistant, easy-clean coating; 2. Support high-density foam for a firm feel; 3. Comfort memory foam for sustained comfort.
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Adjustable Palm Lift
Keep your wrists in a natural, comfortable position whether seated or standing with an innovative palm lift feature. Tilt legs of 0°, -4°, and -7° lift your palms into an optimal ergonomic position.
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Layout
| Full size, curved, split | Full size | Full size | Compact |
Palm Rest
| Pillowed/ Multi-layer foam | No | No | No |
Adjustable Palm Lift
| Yes/Tilt legs with 0°, -4°,-7° | No | No | No |
Power
| Up to 24 months/2AAA batteries | 10 days; 20 wks w/o backlight | 15 days; 40 wks w/o backlight | Up to 24 months/2AAA batteries |
Connected Devices
| Up to 3 | Up to 3 | Up to 3 | Up to 3 |
Tablet/Smartphone Stand
| No | No | No | Yes |
Windows Compatible
| Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
macOS Compatible
| Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Chrome OS compatible
| Yes | No | Yes | Yes |
Linux Compatible
| Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
Android Compatible
| Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
iOS Compatible
| Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
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Meet the ERGO Series by Logitech
Minimize fatigue and reduce tension with innovative and smart designs that promote natural and relaxed body movement and posture.
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Perfect Match with MX Vertical Ergonomic Mouse
A natural “handshake” position reduces wrist pressure and forearm strain.
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Move the cursor with limited hand and wrist movements – and save space on your desktop.
Is the palm rest stain-resistant and easy to clean?
Yes, the palm rest is coated so it is stain-resistant and easy to clean. It also feels smooth and comfortable. General stains can be removed with commercial soap and detergents. Avoid marker and permanent inks.
Is ERGO K860 fully compatible with Windows and macOS?
Yes. To provide the perfect typing experience on either platform, the printed dual key layout works with both MacOS and Windows.
Are ergonomic keyboards only for those who have carpal tunnel syndrome or some other injury already?
Absolutely not. Ergonomic keyboards are for anyone looking for greater comfort as they promote a more natural and relaxed posture.
How can I adjust the palm lift to fit my unique desk setup?
You can adjust the angle of your keyboard to keep your wrists in a natural, unbent position. Choose between 0°, -4° and -7°, whichever position best fits your desk setup.
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Ergonomic | 5.0 | 4.6 | 5.0 | 4.6 | 4.0 | 4.4 |
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Battery life | — | 4.4 | — | 4.7 | — | 4.7 |
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connectivity tech | Bluetooth | Bluetooth, 2.4G USB | Bluetooth, USB | USB Wireless | Wireless, Bluetooth, 2.4G USB-C | USB-A |
number of keys | 105 | 101 | 101 | 102 | 101 | 101 |
hardware interface | bluetooth | bluetooth | — | usb | bluetooth | — |
compatible devices | Compatible on Windows, macOS, Linux and Chrome OS | PC, Laptop, Smartphone, Tablet | Laptop, Console, PC | PC, Desktop, Laptop, Computers | Laptop, PC, Smart TV, Tablet, Smartphone | PC, Laptop |
keyboard description | Qwerty | Wireless | Membrane | Split Ergonomic | Ergonomic, Wireless,Backlight | Membrane |
operating system | Mac,Windows | Windows, Mac OS, Linux, Chrome OS | Windows, Mac OS | Windows | Windows 10, Windows 8, Mac OS, Chrome OS | Windows, Android, Mac OS |
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MADE WITH RECYCLED PLASTICThe plastic parts in ERGO K860 include 71% post-consumer recycled plastic* to give a second life to end-of-life plastic from old consumer electronics and help reduce our carbon footprint. *Excludes plastic in printed wiring assembly (PWA) and packaging. |
RESPONSIBLY-SOURCED PACKAGINGThe paper packaging of the ERGO K860 comes from FSC-certified forests and other controlled sources. By choosing this product, you are supporting responsible management of the world's forests. |
CARBON NEUTRALERGO K860 is certified carbon neutral. This means the carbon impact of the product and packaging has been reduced to zero due to Logitech’s investment in carbon-offsetting and removal projects. |
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Product Description
Type more naturally with ERGO K860 - an advanced ergonomic keyboard that promotes a more relaxed typing posture – reducing wrist bending by 25% and offering 54% more wrist support. The curved, split keyframe reduces muscle strain on your wrists and forearms. And the pillowed wrist rest offers comfort and the optimal ergonomic position. The adjustable palm lift feature keeps your wrists in a natural posture, whether you're seated or standing. You’ll confidently type on Perfect Stroke keys—crafted for precision and fluidity. And an integrated numpad, multi-device capabilities, and two-year battery life ensure that you won’t compromise performance for ergonomics.
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This product has sustainability features recognized by trusted certifications.
Carbon emissions from the lifecycle of this product were measured, reduced and offset.
Carbon Neutral Certified by SCS Global Services enables companies to demonstrate carbon neutrality for their products by reducing carbon emissions throughout their operations and offsetting their remaining carbon footprint through the purchase of carbon credits. SCS Global Services is a global leader in third-party environmental and sustainability verification, certification, auditing, testing, and standards development. SCS is a chartered Benefit Corporation, reflecting its commitment to socially and environmentally responsible business practices.
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MADE WITH RECYCLED PLASTICThe plastic parts in ERGO K860 include 71% post-consumer recycled plastic* to give a second life to end-of-life plastic from old consumer electronics and help reduce our carbon footprint. *Excludes plastic in printed wiring assembly (PWA) and packaging. |
RESPONSIBLY-SOURCED PACKAGINGThe paper packaging of the ERGO K860 comes from FSC-certified forests and other controlled sources. By choosing this product, you are supporting responsible management of the world's forests. |
CARBON NEUTRALERGO K860 is certified carbon neutral. This means the carbon impact of the product and packaging has been reduced to zero due to Logitech’s investment in carbon-offsetting and removal projects. |
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Customers like the comfort, noise and connectivity of the keyboard mouse set. For example, they mention that it's ergonomic, the keys are comfortable and quiet, and that it does well at quiet and ergonomics. They also like the connectivity, and quality. That said, opinions are mixed on keycaps, ease of use, value, and performance.
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Customers like the comfort of the keyboard. They mention that it has a comfortable palm rest, the keys are comfortable and quiet, and the shape, placement, and feel of the keys is good. They also say that the design does help with wrist pain when they work long hours and that it can be used for hours without wrist fatigue.
"...Keys are comfortable and quiet. I'm far from a keyboard expert or connoisseur, but the typing action is fine (if not a tad firm)...." Read more
"...and within just one day of use, I can already feel the immense comfort it provides compared to a standard keyboard...." Read more
"...It is otherwise a very comfortable, fast, easy, quiet keyboard. I’ve even become accustomed to toggling between F-keys and media keys...." Read more
"...The natural key position, curved, raised keyboard layout, and comfortable palm-rest are as close to ideal as can be imagined...." Read more
Customers like the quality of the keyboard mouse set. They say the keyboard is nice, has good feedback, and has a soft touch to reduce stress. They also appreciate the ergonomics of the keys and wrist pad. Overall, customers are satisfied with the performance and functionality of the product.
"...The split keyboard design and wrist rest have revolutionized my typing posture, providing a more natural and comfortable position for my hands and..." Read more
"...I should RMA this keyboard, but the key action is so damn fluid - I type a lot faster on it - that I'm dragging my feet on the RMA...." Read more
"...The K860 is a super solid keyboard. You can tell a lot of thought- and dare I say- customer input (chortle)- went in to this masterpiece...." Read more
"...The palm rest is comfortable but I was surprised there isn't really a texture to it. It's just a pattern on the material made to look like a texture...." Read more
Customers like the connectivity of the keyboard mouse set. They mention that it can connect multiple devices and it supports Bluetooth or a 2.4 Ghz receiver. They appreciate the versatility of being able to bind to multiple devices, as well as compatibility with Mac and Windows. They also mention that the wireless connectivity is convenient and easy to set up and pairing via Bluetooth.
"...Just like my M720 mouse, I like that there's a USB receiver and it can do Bluetooth (and multi-device BT even!)...." Read more
"...While the wireless connectivity is convenient, I do wish there was an option to keep it wired for times when I prefer a direct connection...." Read more
"My keyboard has stopped connecting to my computer twice now - batteries are fine no issues." Read more
"...I love the versatility of being able to bind to multiple devices, as well as compatibility with Microsoft and Apple products...." Read more
Customers like the noise of the keyboard. They mention that the keys do not make unnecessary noise, and are fairly quiet. They also appreciate the soft touch keys and the fact that the keyboard doesn't creak, crack or groan.
"...Keys are comfortable and quiet. I'm far from a keyboard expert or connoisseur, but the typing action is fine (if not a tad firm)...." Read more
"...One standout feature is the quiet keystrokes. It's refreshing to type without the clatter and noise that some other keyboards can produce...." Read more
"...It is otherwise a very comfortable, fast, easy, quiet keyboard. I’ve even become accustomed to toggling between F-keys and media keys...." Read more
"...numeric keyboard, soft and cushy built-in adjustable wrist rest, QUIET keys with an almost perfect layout right out of the box, and adjustable..." Read more
Customers are mixed about the performance of the keyboard mouse set. Some mention that it works well, while others say that it's ineffective and inefficient.
"...Otherwise it's nice to see Logitech finally making a decent, modern, split layout keyboard." Read more
"...Overall, the Logitech ERGO K860 is a top-notch keyboard that combines ergonomic design with a quiet and enjoyable typing experience...." Read more
"...At least that (a reset) always fixes it. But it's a terrible interruption to workflow. You can lose important work that way!..." Read more
"...Works great! The bottom line is you can't go wrong with this excellent keyboard from Logitech. Way to innovate, Logitech!" Read more
Customers are mixed about the ease of use of the keyboard mouse set. Some mention that the split makes it feel more natural to type, and the typing is precise and effortless. However, others say that the flatter keys take some getting used to, and start loosing letter details. They also say that it causes frequent typos and mistakes.
"...I'm far from a keyboard expert or connoisseur, but the typing action is fine (if not a tad firm)...." Read more
"...You can see in my attached pictures how the letters have worn off the keys I use most often. This is normally fine for me...." Read more
"...The split keyboard design and wrist rest have revolutionized my typing posture, providing a more natural and comfortable position for my hands and..." Read more
"...It is otherwise a very comfortable, fast, easy, quiet keyboard. I’ve even become accustomed to toggling between F-keys and media keys...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the value of the keyboard mouse set. Some mention it's well worth the money, while others say it'll cost more than expected.
"...price - if you work 4-12 hours a day at a computer, the price of this is pretty cheap compared to physical therapy and possible surgery needed from..." Read more
"...i give this 5 stars without hesitation! Possibly it’s a bit high in price, but when you need it and must have it, you’ll pay for it...." Read more
"...keyboard around that has such a comfortable had placement and support for this price." Read more
"...This is pretty expensive for something that isn't backlit...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the keycaps. Some mention that the function keys are all configurable, and the keys are very quiet. They also like the ability to modify the key commands easily via the Logi Options app. However, some say that some of the command/shortcut keys are in unusual places, and it's a challenge on the non-alphanumeric keys.
"...The LogiOptions+ software that you can install offers some nice configuration options...." Read more
"...At that time, no other inputs are possible, since the keyboard is busy spamming that one keystroke to the PC...." Read more
"...without having to use the mouse wheel, and it has the windows key windows/option key which makes it easy to split my windows between my monitors for..." Read more
"...It's also a challenge on the non-alphanumeric keys because the secondary symbols (shift symbols) aren't as engrained in my brain...." Read more
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I think it's safe to say the K860 finally fills that gap. And so far it seems to be doing it well. I think there is a little bit of a difference in the spacing from one side to the other when comparing to the Sculpt but the overall layout is basically the same. So while I'm still getting a feel for where the differences are between the two (delete key, number pad, pg up/down, etc), the overall transition is easy.
The Good
Keys are comfortable and quiet. I'm far from a keyboard expert or connoisseur, but the typing action is fine (if not a tad firm). I do tend to only use the left side of the spacebar and I think that particular key makes a little more noise than the others - but otherwise it's pretty quiet. I also like having a number pad again (the Sculpt has a separate/external one which I usually kept in a drawer).
Actual ergonomic feet. I'm happy to see that they got the feet in the right place for actual improved ergonomics. The lower of the two feet settings feels about right to me when comparing to what I'm used to with the Sculpt (I did use the riser on the Sculpt for max comfort) - but I like that there are two options and might try the taller one just to see if I notice a difference.
There's a power switch. It seems dumb, but I like that there's actually a power switch. This will be handy when I want to give it a quick wipe down and cleaning. MS's Sculpt did not have one and that just meant I had to pull the batteries or turn off my laptop if I wanted to clean it. Not the worst but not exactly convenient.
Dual connection methods. Just like my M720 mouse, I like that there's a USB receiver and it can do Bluetooth (and multi-device BT even!). I like using BT on my own computer to keep USB ports free but it's nice to be able to pull the receiver out if I'm working on another system temporarily.
The Meh
Palm rest is not as fancy as it looks. The palm rest is comfortable but I was surprised there isn't really a texture to it. It's just a pattern on the material made to look like a texture. It's otherwise just as smooth as any other palm rest I've used. From the images, I expected maybe it would be some sort of microfiber or other soft textile. I am also surprised that the palm rest doesn't detach from the keyboard. It kind of looked like it would from the photos but it's all one piece. It's fine though, since I'd probably only ever use it with it attached - it just gave that impression from the design.
Feet are a little too rubbery? While I appreciate grippy feet to keep things in place, I tend to push my keyboard around my desk during the day depending on what else I'm working on and these feet are pretty grippy out of the box. Though that honestly might be a plus for a lot of other people.
I've only been using it for a short time, so I don't really have any negatives to put into this - but I'll update if anything comes up. Otherwise it's nice to see Logitech finally making a decent, modern, split layout keyboard.
The "plug and play" setup made the installation process effortless, allowing me to start using the keyboard immediately without any hassle. The split keyboard design and wrist rest have revolutionized my typing posture, providing a more natural and comfortable position for my hands and wrists.
One standout feature is the quiet keystrokes. It's refreshing to type without the clatter and noise that some other keyboards can produce. This makes the ERGO K860 a fantastic option for a quieter work environment or shared spaces.
While the wireless connectivity is convenient, I do wish there was an option to keep it wired for times when I prefer a direct connection. However, the wireless performance has been reliable so far, with no noticeable lag or connectivity issues.
Overall, the Logitech ERGO K860 is a top-notch keyboard that combines ergonomic design with a quiet and enjoyable typing experience. I'm excited to see how it continues to enhance my productivity and comfort during extended work hours. If you're in the market for a comfortable and silent keyboard that's a joy to use, the ERGO K860 won't disappoint.
Reviewed in the United States on July 29, 2023
The "plug and play" setup made the installation process effortless, allowing me to start using the keyboard immediately without any hassle. The split keyboard design and wrist rest have revolutionized my typing posture, providing a more natural and comfortable position for my hands and wrists.
One standout feature is the quiet keystrokes. It's refreshing to type without the clatter and noise that some other keyboards can produce. This makes the ERGO K860 a fantastic option for a quieter work environment or shared spaces.
While the wireless connectivity is convenient, I do wish there was an option to keep it wired for times when I prefer a direct connection. However, the wireless performance has been reliable so far, with no noticeable lag or connectivity issues.
Overall, the Logitech ERGO K860 is a top-notch keyboard that combines ergonomic design with a quiet and enjoyable typing experience. I'm excited to see how it continues to enhance my productivity and comfort during extended work hours. If you're in the market for a comfortable and silent keyboard that's a joy to use, the ERGO K860 won't disappoint.
I found the Microsoft context-sensitive menu pop-up key -- equivalent to the right mouse button -- of the MS EP4000. See picture. I don't love this location. But at least it exists. I'm moderately used to it's weird inaccessible placement. But I do have to always look to find it, instead of knowing it's location by muscle memory, like most keys. I probably should put one of those raised gummy circles (like on my delete key and fn key here in the pic) on it.
Also, I like this keyboard now so much that I bought one for the office too. It's outside office standards, so I paid for it myself. (This really helps avoid the constant disorientation of working on two different keyboard between home and work.)
UPDATE (7 Apr 2021, a few months into ownership).
The problems I wrote about below, seem to have miraculously evaporated. I have no idea why. Now this keyboard only spams the volume-up (or down) signal to my PC maybe once a month. And I’ve found that just taking the USB fob out for a second, and cycling the power button on the keyboard clears that every time, and takes maybe 5 second. For something that happens maybe once a month, I can live with it. It is otherwise a very comfortable, fast, easy, quiet keyboard. I’ve even become accustomed to toggling between F-keys and media keys. All in all, this is my new favorite keyboard.
ORIGINAL REVIEW
This seems the best option for users who loved their Microsoft Ergonomic Pro 4000. Same split layout, and the other keys are more nearly where muscle memory expects them to be (INS, Home, pg up, DEL, end, pg down). And the key action is awesome: actually way faster than the MS EP4000. ... BUT:
WARNING #1:
Around 1-4 times a week, the communication between my PC and this keyboard locks in some weird setting, like increasing the volume. I can unintentionally get max volume this way in <1 second, with zero forewarning. Happens when I haven't even touched the associated media key.
At that time, no other inputs are possible, since the keyboard is busy spamming that one keystroke to the PC. The only solution is (after ripping my headphones off) to remove the USB fob from my PC, wait a minute, plug it back, and hope for the best.
Usually that works. But sometimes it's just more of the same, and I have to manually restart my PC. At least that (a reset) always fixes it. But it's a terrible interruption to workflow. You can lose important work that way!
This happens on both my self-built PC (keyboard drivers installed), and on my HP laptop (keyboard drivers not installed). So, it's not a problem with my PC. It's not a mechanical sticking (no key is physically wedged): it's a logical sticking.
To be clear, it's not just "volume up" that gets locked active. Other keys too. Volume down. And toggles between apps. And stuff I can't really explain/describe: I just see a lot of fibrillation on my monitor, as the various apps go nuts - so far without editing content, but long term who knows?
I should RMA this keyboard, but the key action is so damn fluid - I type a lot faster on it - that I'm dragging my feet on the RMA. That, and it's otherwise the prefect replacement for my beloved Microsoft Ergonmic Pro 4000.
WARNING #2:
I HATE that I have to toggle between the F-keys between F-functions and media key functions. I am not used to that. My old keyboard -- like many who buy this, I bet -- was a Microsoft Ergonmonic Pro 4000 (before Microsoft ruined that line with their terrible 7000 update). It had physically distinct media keys vs. F-keys. So I'm used to adjusting sound volume instinctively, without thinking about it, and ditto hitting F2 to edit a cell entry (e.g., in Excel), or hit F11 to enlarge my browser (to remove navigation bar shrubbery). But on this Little Compromise of a keyboard, I have to constantly recover from hitting an F-key/media with the toggle set to the wrong usage. Aarg!
I am slowly learning to press the F/media key toggle, while watching my monitor for the brief flash that tells which mode it's in, then deciding whether to repress the F/media key toggle again, before trying to get either an F-key or a media key to perform some function. I'm Not loving that!
I would REALLY prefer a keyboard set-up like the MS Ergonomic Pro 4000, but that is probably tied up in a patent, that MS won't release or reasonably license, but neither will they manufacture them anymore. Oh, you may still find one on eBay, used, for $300. Ugh.
WARNING #3:
The Microsoft context-sensitive menu pop-up key -- equivalent to the right mouse button -- of the MS EP4000, is missing. Replaced by a second key: "opt/ctrl". You'd think the driver software would let you program this key to do different things. I have not found how to make it act like the awesome key that it replaced (the Microsoft context-sensitive pop-up menu key). I'm still mourning the loss of that little key of wonder. Slows me way down to have to take hands off keyboard to fiddle around to right-mouse click every time.
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2021
I found the Microsoft context-sensitive menu pop-up key -- equivalent to the right mouse button -- of the MS EP4000. See picture. I don't love this location. But at least it exists. I'm moderately used to it's weird inaccessible placement. But I do have to always look to find it, instead of knowing it's location by muscle memory, like most keys. I probably should put one of those raised gummy circles (like on my delete key and fn key here in the pic) on it.
Also, I like this keyboard now so much that I bought one for the office too. It's outside office standards, so I paid for it myself. (This really helps avoid the constant disorientation of working on two different keyboard between home and work.)
UPDATE (7 Apr 2021, a few months into ownership).
The problems I wrote about below, seem to have miraculously evaporated. I have no idea why. Now this keyboard only spams the volume-up (or down) signal to my PC maybe once a month. And I’ve found that just taking the USB fob out for a second, and cycling the power button on the keyboard clears that every time, and takes maybe 5 second. For something that happens maybe once a month, I can live with it. It is otherwise a very comfortable, fast, easy, quiet keyboard. I’ve even become accustomed to toggling between F-keys and media keys. All in all, this is my new favorite keyboard.
ORIGINAL REVIEW
This seems the best option for users who loved their Microsoft Ergonomic Pro 4000. Same split layout, and the other keys are more nearly where muscle memory expects them to be (INS, Home, pg up, DEL, end, pg down). And the key action is awesome: actually way faster than the MS EP4000. ... BUT:
WARNING #1:
Around 1-4 times a week, the communication between my PC and this keyboard locks in some weird setting, like increasing the volume. I can unintentionally get max volume this way in <1 second, with zero forewarning. Happens when I haven't even touched the associated media key.
At that time, no other inputs are possible, since the keyboard is busy spamming that one keystroke to the PC. The only solution is (after ripping my headphones off) to remove the USB fob from my PC, wait a minute, plug it back, and hope for the best.
Usually that works. But sometimes it's just more of the same, and I have to manually restart my PC. At least that (a reset) always fixes it. But it's a terrible interruption to workflow. You can lose important work that way!
This happens on both my self-built PC (keyboard drivers installed), and on my HP laptop (keyboard drivers not installed). So, it's not a problem with my PC. It's not a mechanical sticking (no key is physically wedged): it's a logical sticking.
To be clear, it's not just "volume up" that gets locked active. Other keys too. Volume down. And toggles between apps. And stuff I can't really explain/describe: I just see a lot of fibrillation on my monitor, as the various apps go nuts - so far without editing content, but long term who knows?
I should RMA this keyboard, but the key action is so damn fluid - I type a lot faster on it - that I'm dragging my feet on the RMA. That, and it's otherwise the prefect replacement for my beloved Microsoft Ergonmic Pro 4000.
WARNING #2:
I HATE that I have to toggle between the F-keys between F-functions and media key functions. I am not used to that. My old keyboard -- like many who buy this, I bet -- was a Microsoft Ergonmonic Pro 4000 (before Microsoft ruined that line with their terrible 7000 update). It had physically distinct media keys vs. F-keys. So I'm used to adjusting sound volume instinctively, without thinking about it, and ditto hitting F2 to edit a cell entry (e.g., in Excel), or hit F11 to enlarge my browser (to remove navigation bar shrubbery). But on this Little Compromise of a keyboard, I have to constantly recover from hitting an F-key/media with the toggle set to the wrong usage. Aarg!
I am slowly learning to press the F/media key toggle, while watching my monitor for the brief flash that tells which mode it's in, then deciding whether to repress the F/media key toggle again, before trying to get either an F-key or a media key to perform some function. I'm Not loving that!
I would REALLY prefer a keyboard set-up like the MS Ergonomic Pro 4000, but that is probably tied up in a patent, that MS won't release or reasonably license, but neither will they manufacture them anymore. Oh, you may still find one on eBay, used, for $300. Ugh.
WARNING #3:
The Microsoft context-sensitive menu pop-up key -- equivalent to the right mouse button -- of the MS EP4000, is missing. Replaced by a second key: "opt/ctrl". You'd think the driver software would let you program this key to do different things. I have not found how to make it act like the awesome key that it replaced (the Microsoft context-sensitive pop-up menu key). I'm still mourning the loss of that little key of wonder. Slows me way down to have to take hands off keyboard to fiddle around to right-mouse click every time.
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