Brand | Brooks England |
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Color | BLACK |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather, steel rails |
Pad Type | Gel Pad |
Bike Type | City Bike, Road bike, cyclocross bike, mountain bike, commuter bike, casual bike, cruiser bike |
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 13.43 x 8.66 x 3.39 inches |
Package Weight | 1.07 Kilograms |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 14 x 9 x 4 inches |
Item Weight | 0.53 Kilograms |
Brand Name | Brooks England |
Country of Origin | United Kingdom |
Warranty Description | Two years from the date of purchase against defects in manufacture or materials |
Model Name | Bicycle Saddle |
Suggested Users | mens |
Number of Items | 1 |
Manufacturer | Brooks England |
Part Number | B211 A07202 |
Model Year | 2015 |
Style | Standard |
Included Components | Saddle |
Size | Standard |
Sport Type | Cycling |
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Brand | Brooks England |
Color | BLACK |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather, steel rails |
Pad Type | Gel Pad |
About this item
- Leather
- Imported
- Rails: steel
- Shell: full-grain leather
- Seat Length: 275mm
- Seat Width: 175mm
- Claimed Weight: 580g
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From the manufacturer
The Original English Leather Saddle
The B17 is our flagship model, ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and mountain bike use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalog . The model is available for gents and ladies: the B17 (gents) and B17 S (ladies).
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Black Steel RailsThe Standard models feature black steel rails, the B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork, and the B17 Titanium/ Both the B17 Special and the Titanium also feature hand hammered copper rivets. |
Handmade in EnglandThis saddle is handmade in England. |
Vegetable Tanned LeatherConstructed with pure vegetable tanned leather, Black powder coated all black steel rails and tubular steel rivets. If leather is cracking or distressed, apply a small amount of Brooks Proofide. |
History and Heritage
Brooks England has been making quality goods ever since the founder created the Brooks company in 1866. Today they remain committed to his legacy. His early blueprints and inspirational pursuit of innovation led to a wealth of quality, durable and beautiful products so Brooks preserves that spirit by combining the very best of modern technology with the timeless Brooks aesthetic. They still deliver the finest saddles and cycling accessories to their customers across the world- even after all this time.
Product Description
Brooks Saddle B17 Standard is our flagship model, Ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and atb use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue. The Standard models feature black steel rails and the Honey leather seat features tubular steel rivets. The saddle weighs 525 grams.
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ASIN | B000HZA918 |
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Customer Reviews |
4.7 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #33,570 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #92 in Bike Saddles |
Date First Available | March 29, 2007 |
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Customers like the fit, comfort, value, and quality of the bicycle seat. They mention that its more comfortable than their last generic saddle, and worth the price. They also appreciate appearance, and ride. However, some customers differ on ease of installation, and break in period.
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Customers like the comfort of the saddle. For example, they mention that it's more comfortable than their last generic saddle, and it feels amazing after breaking it in. Some customers say that they can do 3 hoir rides and not have one bit of pain. The seat is not bad to ride on and is noticiably softer. That said, they say it gives a custom fit that is perfect for their body.
"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more
"So this magic seat is hard but it's supposed to be incredibly comfortable? It takes hundreds of miles of break in but after that it's nirvana...." Read more
"It hurt for a day or so, and then all of a sudden...nothing. No pain, not even after riding all day...." Read more
"...It is already noticiablly softer... and it has only been 20 minutes... I probably would have had to ride 1000 miles to get the same effect...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the quality of the saddle. They mention that it has a solid build, is one of the best bicycle seats on the market, and the black leather should last a long time. Customers are also impressed with the material, saying that it is great and holds up great.
"...It is incredibly comfortable and durable and I would recommend buying. It was delivered very fast as well." Read more
"...Really nice upgrade for a hardtail, for sure." Read more
"...me and when I need another I will not hesitate but this one is holding up great. Do yourself a favor and get this one." Read more
"Bought because of the reputation for comfort. Holding up well after 10,000km...." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the appearance of the bike seat. They mention that it has a very good look, it brings a sense of classic distinction, and it has an eclectic British style.
"...Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently...." Read more
"...The leather hammock design is really ingenious. Gives where you need it to and even damps road vibration and bumps...." Read more
"...On the plus side the Brooks saddle is a work of art. It is beautiful. But it was not to be for me." Read more
"...Also, it looks fantastic." Read more
Customers like the value of the sporting goods. They mention that it's worth the price and is of equal quality and value.
"...It's worth the money. See my related review of the Brooks Proofide paraffin wax for treating the leather for some tips on application:..." Read more
"Definitely worth the money." Read more
"...Worth every penny. I’m not a fancy spandex rider but like to go on 10-50 mile rides in the warm weather and this is the seat for me." Read more
"...years so someone's been doing something the right way, yes, it's a bit pricey but worth every bit of it and then some...." Read more
Customers like the ride of the saddle. For example, they say it's great for the entire ride, keeps them riding longer, and gets better with every ride. It has zero issues with 1 hour rides, and it'll give them years of satisfaction.
"Easy to mount and nice to ride!!!" Read more
"...They take some break-in time, but will then give you years of satisfaction. I have them on all my bikes; Road, mountain, hybrid and E-bike." Read more
"...far, I've got about 600 miles on the Brooks and it's still going strong with no issues; it's a smooth, comfortable ride all the way...." Read more
"...This broke in quickly and now it is great for the entire ride." Read more
Customers like the fit of the sporting good. For example, they say it fits perfectly and is perfect for their generous kiester.
"...The stock saddle was too narrow for my particular body, and the B17 fits like a glove...." Read more
"...Not only does the saddle fit perfectly now, it is extremely good looking...." Read more
"...It got good reviews and everyone raves about it. Problem is the rails would not fit on my Easton seat post...." Read more
"...The leather molds to your sit bones and gives a custom fit that is perfect for your body...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the ease of installation. Some mention that it's easy to install, the instructions and care directions are clear, and there was no need to buy any tools. However, others say that the Brooks saddle is not worth it, it'd be a pain to install and it'll break in well.
"...Hard to believe, right?Here's the deal - the concept of this seat is very simple - it's a hammock seat - meaning instead of sitting on a..." Read more
"...They are tough and hard at the beginning, you will think; what the hell? Did I spend this much amount of money on a piece of wood to sit on?..." Read more
"Easy to mount and nice to ride!!!" Read more
"...of Proofide too -- yes it is expensive but goes a long way and is a joy to apply...." Read more
Customers have mixed opinions about the break-in period of the cycling shorts. Some mention that there is no break- in period, while others say that it takes a while to break in.
"This saddle is excellent! It takes a while to break in but once it does it is incredibly comfortable on long rides...." Read more
"...For me, there is no break-in period (ymmv). I already have another B17 on my road bike, so this was a no-brainer." Read more
"...The saddle is well made and comfortable. It takes a while to break it in and the rider should give it a few hundred break in miles." Read more
"...The B17 is a classic. They do take a while to break in, but since we ride with padded cycling shorts, it isn't as big a deal as if you just ride..." Read more
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Update: I wrote the above review after one ten-mile ride. However, I usually do at least twenty miles per ride, and the Brooks seat was indeed hard on the coño on the second half of my first twenty-miler using it. I transferred the seat to my commuter bike, which I ride only three miles roundtrip to my office. I was hoping to break it in that way with a good many short rides. Now having had the seat for an entire year, the seat seems to be mostly broken in. I'm not as pleased as others seem to be in their reviews, but I have to add that I've never used a bicycle seat that was actually comfortable. The only way to rank a bicycle seat truthfully as "best" would be by saying it was the "least uncomfortable."
Second Update: I have had the Brooks seat for almost three years and it is more comfortable than I described in my last update. The comfort level seems to be an asymptote function: it will never reach absolute comfort but instead will be forever approaching closer to it in smaller and smaller increments. It is far more comfortable than the standard seat that came with my $1,100 Giant road bike. I recommend it and raise it to five stars. Considering the high cost of professional bicycle seats, this is a good buy.
Third update: original Brooks saddle is still in fine working condition and I expect to use it into my sunset years (I am 64). I have two bicycles and have bought a second Brooks saddle to replace the stock seat on my $1,100 Giant road bike. It's worth the money. See my related review of the Brooks Proofide paraffin wax for treating the leather for some tips on application:
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Hard to believe, right?
Here's the deal - the concept of this seat is very simple - it's a hammock seat - meaning instead of sitting on a bunch of padding you sit on a suspension of material. I think the break in factor is an illusion - almost every bike seat I've ever used was uncomfortable at first before getting used to it. So what if people are just getting used to it?
I ride motorcycles too - and realized early on that a "plush" seat is horrible after a 2+ hour ride. Why - because what was soft is now creating pressure and bottoming out where it shouldn't. Instead, a harder seat is far superior. Same applies here.
So what model to choose? Is this size the same as the narrower or really wide ones? Here's the part they don't tell you - it's all about seating angle. If you ride at a more aggressive angle - you need a narrower seat sized to your sit bones. If you sit upright - you need a wider seat sized to your tuchus.
Here's something you can try with your CURRENT seat - without buying anything. Ride 100 yards at the most upright position you can. Stop. Now ride 100 yards at the about a 45 degree angle representing a touring or casual mountain bike. Now ride 100 yards at about a 60 degree angle which represents a more racing/professional/hard core rider position. Which feels best to you? Your seat will tell you which is best. That's the angle the seat was designed for.
Now comes the B17. The B17 is the longest running model in the Brooks line - cool, right? It's significantly wider at about 170 mm compared to 140mm for a typical road or mountain bike seat. But the real question is what are your site bones? If you have sit bones that are wider, get the B17 or C19. If you have average build but want comfort, get a B17 or C17. For you narrower people, I have nothing but resentment and fomo so you're on your own.
Do you get the B17 if you ride a beach cruiser? No - get a wider model. For some riders it will "work" but not because it's the right model but because it's a happy coincidence with body type. The B17 is for people that want a 45 degree to 60 degree riding angle and have the right sit bones to use it. It's not a "sit up on top" seat.
From a pure aesthetic perspective the seat is absolutely gorgeous. The leather is top notch and if it breaks in further I will be ecstatic - but it's already quite comfortable for riding and a huge improvement over my 140mm stock seat. Looking forward to many miles.
Are there other seats that would provide just as much comfort? Probably. Is this an awesome seat filled with history and eclectic British style? Oh yeah. I never knew these existed until recently. Knew I had to have one. You do, too. Just pick the right one based on site bones, riding style and riding angle.
Reviewed in the United States on August 20, 2022
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Vere vere vere vere nice. Good producta.
I'm 53 and own a gravel bike, a road bike, a mountain bike and a city bike...I've mostly used my Look road bike for many years for my long rides and tried: the saddle that came with it, at least 3 different Specialized saddles, a Fizik saddle, a Bontrager and finally a Fabric Scoop that I enjoyed for a few years, it was the best I've had ever...lately I bought a new Trek Checkpoint, gravel bike, and right away knew the saddle that came with it wasn't for me... I ordered another Fabric but this time the Cell, as I thought that, with a little more upright position I would be fine...very bad choice...
Then, 2 weeks ago, I ordered a Brooks, based on all the positive reviews...I didn't see any negative review...yes there is a break in period: is it 100 KM ? 200 KM ? I don't know as I rode only 75 KM so far...not much time lately but the first ride, as I just wanted to start break it in, was 10KM, and yes it was hard like rock, even if I treated it with Proofide, the second time, 20KM, a little better, and the third time 50KM, much better, actually already better than what I have tried to date! I am impressed and excited and looking forward to my next ride!
How can such a hard (because it's still hard) saddle be so comfortable? Actually you don't sink in any type of foam, and your skin doesn't stay or 'fold' in a bad 'position' if I should say...
I am very happy! do not hesitate! and on top of that, it's stylish!